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they be studying? >> um, i think a lot of people talk about what they call s.t.e.m., science, technology, something and math. >> engineering. >> engineering and math, right. [laughter] you know, i do think, look, i'm all for -- you know, i have a son who's majoring in classics. i'm all for studying all these interesting things. but i do think that having those kinds of skills are what -- it's part of when you do look at the countries that we worry about competing with us, a lot of their focus is on studying those kinds of things that actually have, you know, have real world usefulness in the economy. and germany for a long time, i've spent a reasonable amount of time in germany, has emphasized engineering and technical backgrounds, and certainly china is going it, and i'm all for -- as i said, i'm all for having historians and even economists. [laughter] economists are very important. but, or money managers. but i do think that having those kinds of, having a strong base of people with those kinds of skills is a great, would be a great thing. >> so i think that the most important point is education
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